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"Gittin' while the gittin' is good": Wanted by the FBI -- Cannon Fodder.
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... "The FBI's unexpectedly large number of job openings results more from attrition and a wave of retirements than from growing government appropriations, Bureau officials told CNN."
"The FBI currently has about 12,800 agents and 18,400 other employees. And, if we are to believe CNN, they are getting out in droves. Why? . . ."
From "Resolve":
It is not only gunnies of various stripes who are panicked at the thought of an Obama presidency. An old friend of mine called me the other day to report that an FBI agent in the west had confessed his fears at church last Sunday. Obama, he worried aloud, was going to shove him and his agency where he did not wish to go. They were, he feared, "entering the grey zone." ... |
Holder's Coming
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"David Codrea shows those of us living in collectivist hives how even those Senators can be contacted as part of the effort to stop AG-nominee Eric Holder."
".45 Superman does the same, as did a commenter who pointed out Holder's poor record on online privacy."
"In this space, we gave you the template used last week to write our Senators. Tuesday will launch the phone blitz to all of the Senators referenced here in this post by Codrea."
"What have you done?"
"More importantly, what will you do today?"
"Remember: there is very little real opposition on this nomination coming from either the Republican mainstream or the NRA, and the confirmation hearing begins on January 15." ...
"Tempus fugit." |
Ammunition Control
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"The Los Angeles City Council approved a package of gun control laws in late 2008, placing new requirements on ammunition sellers and banning the sale of 'military-style' ammunition in the hopes of further reducing the city's gun and gang violence."
"Let's face it. The problem with crime in Los Angeles is caused by too few firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens, not too many. ..."
"L.A. Police Chief William Bratton proclaimed that, '... there is no need for this type of weapon unless it is in the hands of the military or law enforcement,' referring to the .50 caliber rifle. Unfortunately Bratton's argument falls flat since there are no recorded instances of a crime being committed with a .50 caliber rifle in the U.S. ..." ... |
"Buy, Buy, Buy," Bye, Bye?
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"... today I ran into an upscale young couple out to buy their first weapon at Southeastern Guns in Trussville, Alabama."
"What did they settle on? A Rock River M-4 semi-auto with a half dozen magazines and a thousand rounds of ammunition. Two grand, out the door. ... it isn't 'the hobby' they're interested in. From listening to their conversation, they believe its 'The End of the World As We Know It.'" ...
"What seems certain is that whatever the reason folks are buying firearms, we are stocking up to levels not seen since the AWB rush. ... The number of firearms in this country, spread out over our huge area, presents an insurmountable problem to the gun grabbers. Let's hope they understand that BEFORE they start." ... |
What is common sense about that?
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"You hear a lot about anti-gun pundits wanting 'common sense' gun control. But what exactly is common sense about some of the laws they want?"
"Ohio is known for having some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, but what are they accomplishing? Are they really making us safer?"
"Take, for instance, one of my pet peeves, the restrictions placed on concealed handgun license holders when it comes to patronizing a place serving alcohol." ...
"Last week, I visited the state of Idaho and brought along my handgun under the Ohio/Idaho reciprocity agreement. While there, I carried my firearm in several restaurants. Some served alcohol, some didn't. Oddly enough, not one person was injured the whole time I was there." ... |
The Tripwire
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... "The time to organise resistance is not after censorship, but before it. The time to prepare resistance is when our ability to resist is being threatened. The time to begin resistance is when that threat has been upheld or ignored by the courts. The unalienable rights that safeguard our ability to resist are limited to those which, if not violated, allow us to plan and use all materials necessary for resistance. We submit that only the following meet that criteria:"
"freedom of speech and of the press, and the right to peaceably assemble ... (1st Amendment);"
"the right to keep and bear arms -- so that we may have appropriate force in our hands should we need it, and be trained to use such force as necessary (2nd Amendment);" ... |
Rimfire Arsenal
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"The .22 rimfire is probably the world's most available, yet underrated cartridge. Familiar to anyone with any knowledge of firearms and ammo, the little .22LR is often overlooked by many shooters as only a plinking, training or small game round. Despite the lack of power when compared to other rounds, the .22 should be given careful consideration by survival planners."
"A .22 rifle is one of the best, if not the best weapons, one can own for foraging in a survival situation, allowing the survivor to take small game and ever larger game with proper shot placement. Many deer have been reduced to possession, with nothing more than a well placed .22LR round behind the ear." ... |
18 Weapons for Women-Girlie Guns and Other Forms of Feminine Self-Protection
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"Judging by the latest celebrity news, Jennifer Aniston could have used one of the girlie weapons in the cluster below."
"According to a press release, Jennifer Aniston held a burglar at gun point after finding him mid-raid in her house when she returned from a vacation last week." ...
"The cluster below highlights weapon for women that are not only small in small and manageable, but look feminine enough that the men in her life wouldn't try to borrow them" ... |
Ruger 10/22 Spare Parts Kit
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"I noticed in your profile you said you were a certified gunsmith, so I thought you might be able to offer some advice on the Ruger 10/22 and suggest a spare parts kit for the little carbine? ...
Jim D."
"MDC Replies: The little Rugar 10/22 is a fine weapon, I have had mine for over ten years and I must say it has served me well. Mine has taken a truck load of small game and some not so small (wink). If I could only have one gun for survival purposes it would be the Ruger 10/22. Once you learn how a weapon works, and what the parts do each time the trigger is pulled, it's generally not difficult to determine what has broken, when it breaks." ... |
Invite Darth Vader over for target practice�as the target!
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"Tired of blasting away at the bland, stereotypical burglars printed on those paper targets when it's time to practice your shooting? Then take aim at Darth Vader, Megatron, and seven other of sci-fi's most deserving villains."
"Artist Olly Moss has come up with the perfect cure for when things start to get boring out at the firing range."
"The young UK designer, who blew our minds a while back with his design for a spoiler T-shirt (see above), invites you to lock and load and 'Shoot the Baddies' over at his Flickr page."
"Personally, I plan to take aim at those damned zombies�they've been giving me nightmares for years." ... |
Debate Rages Over National Parks Firearms Rule Change
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"A microcosm of the debate over the Department of the Interior's rule change regarding firearms in national parks can be seen in two dueling articles on the Knox News website." ...
"I find the overall tone of both articles to be quite telling. On the one hand, you have the anti-gun hysteric throwing around phrases such as 'commit mayhem', 'firearms worshipers', 'pistol-whipped' while lamenting that 'the obvious aim of those who clearly must sleep with their 9 mm�s clutched tightly in their hands is to make no spot off limits to their 'Roscoes.' ...'"
"How pleasant."
"Contrast that with the more rational counter argument offered by the pro-gun writer, who quotes statistics, explains the licensing procedures ..." ... |
Park visitors have nothing to fear from new gun law
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"This is in response to Dan Thomasson's Dec. 10 column."
"Do you wear your seat belt when driving? Do you keep a fire extinguisher in your home? Did you teach your children to look both ways before crossing the street? Did you tell your children to never get into a car with a stranger?"
"These things - and thousands of others - are called precautions. We take precautions because there is a chance that something might happen. ..."
"Responsible people want to take care of themselves and protect themselves and their families. I do not want to be dependent upon the police or park service to protect me at all times ..."
"A handgun carry permit is a precaution - plain and simple. ..." ... |
CA: Jennifer Aniston Catches Burglar --- and Makes Him Clean Her Home!
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"A burglar in Los Angeles chose the wrong celebrity to mess with -- quite literally."
"Actress Jennifer Aniston and her personal assistant Debi Burke returned to Aniston�s Hollywood Hills home yesterday after a week away to find that thieves had emptied almost everything in the house." ...
"... As she walked back into the sunroom, a man walked through the back door straight into her, Aniston said."
"'Jenifer caught the thief red-handed in her home,' Burke said. 'And what is even crazier, the man even had Jennifer's hat sitting right on his head.'"
"Aniston reportedly held the suspect, 33-year-old Tadd Bruce, at gunpoint and told him to sit on the floor until she decided what to do." ... |
OH: Man, 93, shoots alleged intruder
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"Police are investigating a weekend shooting of an alleged intruder by a 93-year-old homeowner."
"Mark Leon Applin ... was taken by helicopter to Miami Valley Hospital with life-threatening injuries from the shooting ..." ...
""When police arrived, a woman was standing outside her home pointing to Applin who was lying on the sidewalk. She identified him as a man who was trying to get into her home. She said she did not know how he ended up on the sidewalk or how he was injured."
"At that time, another officer observed an elderly man in the house next door holding a gun in his hand. Police secured the gun from the man who said he shot the younger man, identified as Applin, after he broke into his home." ... |
IN: Seventy-year old Indiana woman holds burglar at gun point
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"It's refreshing to read stories like these even if they don't happen in Ohio, and its great to hear that nobody, especially Sandra, was hurt in the ordeal.""Dispatch: 'Ma'am, are you holding him at gunpoint?'"
"Sandra: 'Yes, I am. And if he moves towards me, I'm afraid I'm going to have to kill. I don't want to have to kill him.'"
"The last sentence of that 911 transcript is so telling of the self-defense mindset. In the past ten years that I've been involved in grassroots activism I've never once met anyone in my life who has wanted to use deadly force." ... |
Who will defend you?
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"Professor Don B. Kates, Jr., a civil rights lawyer and criminologist, once wrote:"
"'Even if all 500,000 American police officers were assigned to patrol, they could not protect 240 million citizens from upwards of 10 million criminals who enjoy the luxury of deciding when and where to strike. ...'"
"In the 2005 Castle Rock v. Gonzales case, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to police protection, even in the presence of a restraining order." ...
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Self-defense Works More Often in 2008
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"Justified homicides' more than doubled Interesting - the statistics are local (San Antonio) but seems there is a nationwide trend."
"According to [San Antonio] Police Department statistics, justified homicides in 2008 rose significantly, from seven in 2007 to 17 mirroring a nationwide trend. Of the 17, city and other area police officers were involved in seven."
"'Nationally, it appears that justifiable homicides have increased,' criminologist James Alan Fox said. 'The reasons could be many. We seem to be sending a message that it's acceptable to (use deadly force) even if there is a chance of fleeing.'"
"Of course that criminologist has his knickers in a twist over the 'don't retreat' parts of the new Stand Your Ground laws ..." ... |
ND: Gun Friendly States Have Lower Murder Rates
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"Via Instapundit & Say Uncle:"
"Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem says North Dakota has had only two murders so far this year. He says that�s the lowest yearly number for the state in at least 30 years."
"Stenehjem says North Dakota averages about 11 homicides annually for the past several years, after a high of 22 in 1993. 16 were reported last year."
"TWO?? The method of choice was stabbing."
"Where guns are allowed, with little restrictions, one will see lower rates of violent death."
"Maybe I should move to ND." ...
Submitter's note: Click the link "NORTH DAKOTA STATE LAWS" at the bottom of this blog to see how the State of North Dakota earned a coveted 4 of 100 points and a T-44 out of 50 states rating by the Brady Bunch |
Offensive Defense?
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"The repercussions from Hurricane Katrina continue to roll in like the tidal surge that flooded New Orleans. The latest storm takes aim at guns and gunowners. ... new reports of unprovoked attacks on African-Americans by white, neighborhood militias during the storm's aftermath are beginning to surface ..."
"If there is any truth in these accusations, the perpetrators should be rooted out and punished. The Second Amendment is about defense of person, community, and country, not sport-hunting of humans. Anyone who accepts the responsibility of carrying a gun also accepts the responsibility of using it wisely. ..." ... |
CA: BART officer has yet to give account in shooting (video available)
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"Five days have passed since a BART police officer shot and killed an unarmed rider on a station platform, but the officer has not given a statement to investigators about what happened and the transit agency has apparently not forced him to do so."
"The delay comes as witnesses emerge with their accounts of what happened, some with video footage of the incident recorded on cellular phones. The hold-up is one reason why BART officials - even in the face of public outcry - have said little publicly about the shooting, including whether they believe it was justified." ...
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NJ: Former National Park police sergeant pleads guilty to lesser charge, not assault
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"A former National Park police sergeant accused of striking a handcuffed man with a flashlight during a 2006 arrest pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of hindering apprehension on Tuesday."
"By pleading guilty to the lesser crime, George Roberts faces probation and must forfeit his public job."
"Roberts, a 23-year veteran of the police force, admitted that on Aug. 26, 2006, he attempted to get another officer to change a police report concerning a man who had been arrested for breaking into cars."
"The suspect had just made allegations that Roberts struck him in the face while at the police station." ...
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TN: Officer Will Not Face Charges In Shoving Of 71-Year-Old Wal-Mart Greeter
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"Chattanooga Police Det. Kenneth Freeman will not face charges in an incident in which he shoved a 71-year-old greeter at the Wal-Mart in Collegedale to the floor after he tried to stop him while doing a receipts check."
"Collegedale Police declined to bring charges, then the employee, Bill Walker, filled out a complaint himself. Collegedale Judge Kevin Wilson has reviewed the complaint and did not issue an assault charge." ...
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TN: Brainerd Businessman Says Off Duty Officer Pulled Gun On Tow Truck Driver
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"A Brainerd businessman who owns three buildings near the controversial Deep Blue club said an off duty Chattanooga Police officer came out of the club when his car was being towed and pulled a gun on the tow truck driver."
"Jeff Whitley said the officer approached him with the gun and 'got in my face numerous times until he finally was told by other officers to go home.'"
"He said he was advised the officer is Phil McClain."
"City Police said an internal affairs investigation is underway regarding the incident last Saturday night." ... |
NJ: N.J. fight on 'straw' gun buys heats up
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"New Jersey could soon become the fourth state to limit handgun purchases to one a month, a move aimed at fighting 'straw' gun buyers ..."
"The plan, backed by officials in Camden, Newark, Jersey City and other cities, follows calls from urban leaders across the nation, including Philadelphia, to crack down on gun trafficking that they say fuels violence."
"There is much debate over whether such laws work, however, and opponents say a limit would infringe on a constitutional right in a state that already has rigorous screenings for gun buyers."
"The proposal won approval in the Assembly but faces a tough final test in the more evenly divided Senate. Gov. Corzine ... has said he will 'absolutely' sign the bill into law ..." ... |
NY: Common council taking steps to stop violence
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"... Albany's Common Council wants action on the recommendations made by the Albany Gun Violence Task Force. They have referred an ordinance to create the Gun Violence Prevention Implementation Team to the Public Safety Committee. They are expected to vote on it later this month. The team would pick up where the Gun Violence Task Force left off."
"One of the ideas is called Operation Cease Fire, which would introduce young people to former gang members to teach them alternatives to violence."
"'The talking is done. We are going to get the final report and then this implementation team is to oversee implementing their proposals so that would be the action part of it,' said Albany Common Councilor Dominick Calsolaro." ... |
NY: Creation of gun violence panel considered
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"Common Council member Dominick Calsolaro proposed a team to oversee putting the recommendations of the Albany Gun Violence Task Force into action."
"The panel would have seven members, four appointed by the Council, one each from police, the DA's office, and the schools."
"'The school district has to be involved. We didn't have any member of the school district on the Gun Violence Task Force. It's usually our youth that are involved, and I think we definitely need to have someone from the school district sit on this,' said Calsolaro."
"The Task Force tackled the problem of gun violence during one year of meetings, public forums, research and presentations." ... |
IN: Walkerton-area shooting range under fire
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"Some residents on Thorn Road want the Marshall County Commissioners to broker a cease fire."
"Connie Yates and Jason Tibbs came before the commissioners to complain of a shooting range near their homes near Walkerton. Levi Kemp of Thorn Road has operated the range on his property since at least the late 1960s. The range was in operation before there was zoning in Marshall County and before there were any houses in its vicinity. Kemp's property is currently zoned A1 � agricultural � and under current zoning a firing range is allowed in such areas." [emphasis added] ... |
MI: Michigan gun law to change Wednesday
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"Beginning Wednesday, Michigan will no longer require a post-purchase safety inspection of handguns purchased. Currently, every time a handgun is purchased in Michigan, whether it is a commercial sale or a private sale between two individuals, the purchaser must take the pistol to their local police department and present it for "safety inspection." During these inspections, actual checks for safety really never took place. What was accomplished was that the make, model, caliber and serial number of the gun was registered to the purchaser. The Legislature has recognized the hypocrisy of this process and will now trust its citizens to send them the correct information regarding the handgun to be registered." ... |
FBI plans large hiring blitz of agents, experts
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"Wanted by the FBI: agents, language specialists, computer experts, intelligence analysts and finance experts."
"The FBI said on Monday it had launched one of the largest hiring blitzes in its 100-year history involving 2,100 professional staff vacancies and 850 special agents aimed at filling its most critical vacancies."
"The agency, which seeks to protect the United States from terrorist attack, fight crime and catch spies, among other duties, said it currently has more than 12,800 agents and about 18,400 other employees."
"Since the Sept 11, 2001, attacks, the FBI has been criticized for not having enough employees fluent in foreign languages and for not moving fast enough to upgrade its computer system." ... |
The 2-Million Bullet Barackade
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"ASSASSINS targeting Barack Obama�s inauguration ceremony have been warned they face being cut down in a hail of two million bullets." ...
"In an operation estimated to cost $20million, America�s new president will be shielded from danger by 11,500 soldiers and 4,000 officers from 96 police forces."
"Four thousand police officers, many from neighbouring states West Virginia and Philadelphia, will handle �on-the-streets� law enforcement."
"They will be backed up in the event of an emergency by 4,000 National Guardsmen, with a further 7,500 federal troops on standby ..."
"Asked about estimated total firepower, a Defence Department spokesman said: 'How does two million plus rounds of ammunition sound?'" ... |
IL: Illinois Officer Allegedly Killed for Gun
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"For more than two years, the fatal shooting of Thomas Cook, a police officer for Metra, had remained a mystery, but on Monday authorities charged one of two suspects and alleged that Cook was killed for his gun."
"Jeremy Lloyd, 20, of Gary acted as a lookout while an accomplice shot the officer in the back of the head at point-blank range and stole his service weapon, authorities alleged. Lloyd was ordered held without bail on three counts of murder. Authorities gave no explanation for why the alleged gunman was not charged Monday." ...
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MA: Detention in gun cases challenged
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"Immediately after he took office in January 2007, Bristol District Attorney C. Samuel Sutter took a tough new approach to reducing the violent gun crime that has ravaged cities such as Fall River and New Bedford."
"Under the controversial policy, his prosecutors would ask a district court judge to detain for up to 90 days anyone arrested for illegally carrying a gun, regardless of the circumstances. ... The move has drawn praise from police chiefs and New Bedford Mayor Scott W. Lang ..."
"But yesterday, the state's top judge signaled that Sutter may have overstepped his authority by using a law designed to hold dangerous defendants in domestic violence cases against anyone arrested for illegally carrying a gun." ... |
OR: Josephine County Sheriff To Meet With Gun Owners
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"As you know, the issue of concealed handgun licenses being made public has gotten a lot of attention lately."
"The issue first surfaced as a result of the anti-gun, 'Medford Mail Tribune' seeking all the CHL holders names in Jackson County in order to find out the names of any teachers who might have CHL's. The Jackson County Sheriff refused to reveal the names and chose instead to protect the privacy of license holders."
"As you might expect, the Tribune sued to get this information and won in court. The Jackson County Sheriff, in an effort to protect CHL holders ... appealed. That case is awaiting a hearing in Oregon's Appeals Court." ... |
FL: Gun sales surge on regulation fears
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"Even without his trillion-dollar bailout, President-elect Barack Obama has already helped one segment of the economy: gun sales."
"'We can't even keep them in stock,' said John Massa, owner of the pawn shops Beachside Pawn & Jewelry, Best Pawn & Jewelry and Blue Diamond Pawn & Jewelry in Brevard County."
"Some 15 percent to 20 percent of Massa's sales normally are new and used guns."
"The gun business received its post-election bounce from those who fear the Democratic president and Congress might restrict gun ownership."
"'They're trying to get them before they put the squeeze on (gun purchases),' Massa said. 'It's mostly handguns.'" ... |
CO: Colorado get your guns: sales soared in '08
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"Background checks to clear buyers exceeded 200,000 for the first time in history. More than a quarter occurred after the Nov. 4 election."
"At the Crossroads of the West-Gun Show of the Rockies on Sunday at an Aurora hotel, gun dealers and Second Amendment advocates alike said there is a direct relation between the election results and firearms sales."
"Jimmy West of the Firearms Coalition of Colorado, a gun-rights group, said business has been noticeably more brisk in the wake of Obama's election." ... |
NJ: Pellet gun deaths rare, experts say
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"The horrific kind of incident in which a local mother of two was mortally wounded by a pellet rifle shot this weekend is extremely rare, according to experts."
"Cheryl McDonald, 44, who police say died after accidentally being shot in the back Saturday morning by her husband, is one of only a handful of people who have succumbed in recent years to injuries from the air-pressured weapons. ..."
"According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, 40 people died between 1993 and 2003 from air gun shots across the country. ..."
"In New Jersey, a pellet gun is considered a firearm, and the owner must have a firearm identification card and be 18 years or older to purchase one. ..." ...
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IA: Law school hosts attorney who led Supreme Court fight against gun ban
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"Alan Gura, the attorney whose argument persuaded the Supreme Court last year to strike down one of the country�s most stringent firearms bans, will discuss his litigation in the case when he visits the University of Iowa College of Law Monday, Jan. 12."
"Gura will also discuss the originalist theories of the Second Amendment when he speaks at 12:40 p.m. in Room 115 of the Boyd Law Building. Admission is free and open to the public. Refreshments will be provided."
"Gura was the lead attorney in the case District of Columbia v. Heller, which was heard by the Supreme Court last March and de-cided in June. At issue was a law restricting gun ownership by residents of Washington, D.C." ... |
OH: Muzzleloader numbers down, but season still shows overall increase in harvested deer
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"Hunters took 20,659 deer during Ohio's four-day muzzleloader season, December 27-30, with Tuscarawas County again leading the state with 934 deer checked. Last year, a preliminary total of 21,473 deer was taken during muzzleloader season, according to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) Division of Wildlife."
"Counties reporting the highest number of deer checked during the muzzleloader season included: Tuscarawas-934, Washington-774, Harrison-764, Licking-688, Meigs-613, Coshocton-598, Guernsey-565, Belmont-539, Monroe-533 and Holmes-528." ... |
UK: Guns offered for sale on internet...deactivated and replica guns
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"DEACTIVATED and replica guns are still being offered for sale on the internet."
"Wales on Sunday found a terrifying arsenal of weapons for sale including Uzis, rocket launchers, AK47s and handguns easily available ..."
"But the internet dealers of deactivated weapons can stay in business because of a loophole ..."
"Now anti-violence campaigners Mothers Against Murder and Aggression have called for internet sites advertising such weapons to be shut down." ...
"'Call them (replica guns) what you like, they are weapons, they can be used to hurt or intimidate, and they should be banned.'"
"'I would like to see these not sold at all or you should have to have licences for them, even if you are using them as ornaments.'" ... |
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