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David Codrea: The UT Catch-22
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"UT appeals attack decision

"School had no duty to protect student who was disabled, lawyer says"

"Read the story. it is sickening what was done to a vibrant young woman who had such potential."

"OK, so if the school won't protect people on their premises, how about if they protect themselves?"

"No, sorry:"

"The university is committed to maintaining the safety and security of all persons on university property and during university activities and to maintain a safe and healthful working environment. Specific prohibited activities include:"

"Possession of firearms, explosives, or other lethal materials on university property or during university activities ..." ...

Are Senate Offices Lying To You? Some are claiming there is no Veterans Disarmament Act!
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"It's either an enormous bald-faced lie, or it's ignorance at its worst. But then again, whether it's deception or just plain ignorance... either scenario is found quite commonly on Capitol Hill."

"Some senate offices are telling people the Leahy-Schumer bill is only a bill about 'school safety' and not a bill about disarming veterans."

"'This is not a Veterans Disarmament Act,' some offices have told GOA staff. 'The bill doesn't say anything about veterans.' And one particular office -- that of Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah -- is selectively quoting provisions in the bill to justify his support for the Veterans Disarmament Act." ...

Firearms are not the problem. People are.
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"A popular bumper sticker used to say that 'if guns causes crime, matches causes arson.' It may sound like a bad argument but there's a lot of truth to it. How can an inanimate object cause so much harm all by it self? It doesn't. There�s a much needed ingredient for all that and that�s the people factor."

"... The attitudes toward the Second Amendment and other socio-political issues are a good example of infringements on our Constitutional freedoms. Let's take a look at people and firearms."

"There�s nothing funny about facing an armed criminal, or living in a dangerous neighbourhood. Travis Purser detailed that back in December 2, 2002 in Los Angeles Business Journal with respect of South LA. ..." ...

If You Can't Beat 'Em�Shoot 'Em!?
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"Leave it to the wordsmiths at the Brady Center to get too cute by half."

"In a series of exchanges today between some gun bloggers and the Brady Center�s mouthpiece, Peter Hamm, Hamm threatened to shoot one of the bloggers."

"It all started when the blogosphere criticized Hamm's suggestion that students who '�don't like the fact that you can't have a gun on your college campus' should 'Drop out of school.' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304806,00.html). One would think that quote would be the most ridiculous one of the entire exchange. Not so."

"After some light-hearted tongue-in-cheek back and forth banter, Hamm took offense to a blogger who called him 'Petey.' Hamm replied, 'Don't call me Petey. Or I'll have to shoot you.'" ...

A 'Pillar' Of The First Amendment Discriminates Against The Second
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"Earlier this year, Virginia's Roanoke Times newspaper came under intense scrutiny and near-universal condemnation after its editors made the irresponsible and dangerous choice to post a searchable database of Virginia�s Right-to-Carry permit holders on its website. In doing so, the paper provided anyone with access to the internet (including criminals) the name, home address, and permit issuance and expiration date of more than 135,000 Virginia permit holders." ...

"Now, after igniting and enduring that firestorm of criticism, the Roanoke Times is once again up to its anti-gun antics." ...

A National Decline of Hunters, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do (BFA)
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"USAToday ran a story recently about the declining number of hunters in the United States ('American Hunter is a vanishing breed'). This is indeed a sad statistic that has been covered by several journals across the country."

"Rob Sexton of the US Sportsmen Alliance is quoted in the article noting that hunters pay the bill for conservation. That is true across the country. It is true in Ohio where the Division of Wildlife is almost totally funded by the sale of hunting/fishing/trapping licenses and other permits, such as deer and turkey tags. What isn�t funded through license sales is funded through the Pittman-Robertson federal excise tax on outdoor sporting equipment, firearms and ammo. ..." ...

SC: Burglar shot inside Myrtle Beach home
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A man who broke into a house Thursday morning on 44th Avenue North at Kings Highway in Myrtle Beach was shot in the hand by someone in the house, said Myrtle Beach Police Lt. Doug Furlong.

Emergency operators dispatched police to the scene at 10:40 a.m.

The burglary suspect, who has not yet been charged, was transported to Grand Strand Regional Medical Center. No one else was injured, Furlong said.

TX: Disabled man shoots, kills intruder
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"A man armed with a handgun and a shotgun who forced his way into a south Dallas apartment early this morning was shot and killed this morning by a tenant ..."

"The tenant is partially disabled and uses a wheelchair ..." ...

"The 53-year-old tenant told police that he was at his apartment with his girlfriend when the armed man forced his way into the apartment, Dallas police Sgt. Gil Cerda said."

"The tenant, his girlfriend, and the man struggled in the apartment, Cerda said"

"At some point, the tenant managed to wrestle one of the weapons away from the suspect and fired, Cerda said."

"Two other men accompanying the intruder were able to get away, according to broadcast reports." ...

Students Strap On Empty Holsters to Protest Gun Restrictions on Campus
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"College students across the country have been strapping empty holsters around their waists this week to protest laws that prohibit concealed weapons on campus, citing concerns over campus shootings."

"'People who would otherwise be able to defend themselves are left defenseless when on campus,' said Ethan Bratt, a graduate student wearing an empty holster this week on the campus of Seattle Pacific University."

"Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, a group of college students, parents and citizens who organized after the deadly shootings at Virginia Tech University in April, launched the protest." ...

OH: No campus arms race
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"UNIVERSITY administrators, parents, and law enforcement agencies all know that alcohol, drugs, and college students are a combustible combination. It makes no sense, therefore, to add guns to a mix that already often proves too much for young adults to handle."

"But that's exactly what Students for Concealed Carry on Campus wants to do. The group has organized a protest at Ohio State University and other college campuses across the country to point out the purported unfairness of students not being able to attend classes packing heat."

"At OSU, Miami University, the University of Cincinnati, and elsewhere, students planned to wear empty holsters to class this week to protest the state ban on concealed weapons on campus." ...

OH: Ohio college students protest gun ban on campuses
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"Several college students statewide are coming to campus wearing empty gun holsters.
They are protesting the prohibition of firearms on college campuses."

"The group, Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, is organizing the protest on more then 100 Ohio campuses this week."

"Cleveland State University Junior Joe Rodriguez is attracting attention around campus with his holster."

"Rodriguez says gun free zones are an invitation to those who would do harm to a disarmed student population."

"The Virginia Tech ambush was just one example Rodriguez says where a student with a license to carry a concealed weapon, could have saved lives." ...

FL: Students wearing empty holsters want concealed handguns on campus
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"Some students wore empty holsters on campus this week to support carrying concealed handguns on campus."

"The demonstration was a national event organized by the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus from Monday to Friday."

"While the holsters did not violate any state laws, the holsters could send mixed messages to other students and faculty, said Capt. Jeff Holcomb, spokesman for the University Police Department."

"Deans were notified of the demonstration by e-mail ... said Steve Orlando, UF spokesman."

"'We wanted the faculty to know in case it was in the classroom,' he said. 'There have been lots of protests and demonstrations, and we can't send out an announcement for all of them all of the time.'" ...

KY: For safety's sake, campus gun ban should remain
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"Students may have noticed some of their peers wearing empty gun holsters around campus. While this choice in attire may seem bizarre, these students are participating in a weeklong national peaceful protest of state and university policies banning concealed firearms from campus."

"We unequivocally support these protesters' right to express their opinions peacefully ... But UK should not change its firearms policy."

"UK is currently a deadly-weapons-free campus, a fact that UK's Students for Concealed Carry on Campus hopes to change. Students at Western Kentucky University, Eastern Kentucky University and Northern Kentucky University, along with local gun shops, are also participating in this event ..." ...

WA: Students protest for self-defense
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"Students from more than 110 colleges, including Gonzaga, wore empty gun holsters from Oct. 22 to 26 in protest of the prohibition of firearms on campus."

"In light of such events as the Virginia Tech shooting, some students think concealed handgun license holders should be allowed to carry weapons on campus in the name of self-defense."

"'Virginia Tech is proof that a gun-free zone isn't necessarily safe,' sophomore Tyler Spilker said. ..."

"Spilker, the campus representative for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC), rallied students together to participate in the Empty Holster Protest ... Protesters wore empty holsters to show how people on college campuses are defenseless because of state laws and campus policies." ...

Another Man From Hope
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... "Mr. Huckabee, on the other hand, is running hard right on social issues but liberal-populist on some economic issues. ..."

"Mr. Huckabee attributes his support to the fact he is a 'hardworking, consistent conservative with some authenticity about those convictions.' He is certainly qualified for national office, having served nearly 11 years as a chief executive. I have known and liked him for years ... But I also know he is not the 'consistent conservative' he now claims to be."

"Nor am I alone. Betsy Hagan, Arkansas director of the conservative Eagle Forum and a key backer of his early runs for office ... She was bitterly disappointed with his record. 'He was pro-life and pro-gun, but otherwise a liberal," she says. ..."

MO: Ron Paul 'revolution' sees support
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"For anyone who has seen the 'Ron Paul' signs and wonders about his 'REVOLUTION,' Jim Palisano has some answers."

"The Springfield insurance man says the signs show growing support for the Texas congressman making a bid for the Republican presidential nomination."

"But there's more than politics involved among Paul supporters, he said."

"'This is a social movement,' Palisano said. 'It's not just here in the States, it's all over the world. People are tired of big government and all the intrusiveness. We just want to enjoy our lives.'" ...

"Paul also upholds the Second Amendment. He also voices concern that big banking controls too much of the economy. And he wants the income tax eliminated." ...

HR-1022 update Submitted by: Gun Legislation & Politics in New York Website: http://blog.nysrpa.org	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
FULL TEXT BELOW: Dennis Kucinich has made his feelings on guns known. He signed on as co-sponsor to HR-1022 yesterday.

Williams v. Great Southern Lumber Co., U.S. Supreme Court, "a citizen carrying arms publicly on the street committed no offense", April 16, 1928
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"...On another, certain laborers had been put in jail and a crowd of their sympathizers, some of whom were armed, had threatened a jail delivery..."

"...he appeared on the streets of the city in company with two white men, O'Rourke and Bouchillon, associates of Williams in the labor union, who were armed with shot guns..."

"...This was emphasized by the fact that while the district judge did not permit evidence of the threatening language used by O'Rourke and Bouchillon to go to the jury, he charged them that a citizen carrying arms publicly on the street committed no offense and was not subject to arrest..."

Gourko v. U.S., U.S. Supreme Court, "he could not be found guilty of murder by reason of his having previously armed himself solely for self- defense", April 16, 1894
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"...such arming, was not, in fact, in necessary self- defense. Such we understand to be the meaning of the charge. In our opinion, the court erred in so charging the jury. If the accused was justified in the eye of the law in arming himself for self-defense, and if, without seeking, but on meeting, his adversary, on a subsequent occasion, he killed him, not in necessary self-defense, then his crime was that of manslaughter or murder, as the circumstances, on the occasion of the killing, made it the one or the other. If guilty of manslaughter, looking alone at those circumstances, he could not be found guilty of murder by reason of his having previously armed himself solely for self- defense..."

Further proof that the BATFE is subverting the will of Congress as a rogue federal agency
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"Here is yet ANOTHER attestation to the assertion that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE/ATF) is in fact willfully subverting the desires of Congress, making it a rogue agency."

"... the 2008 Appropriations Bill, via the Committee on Appropriations, directs the ATF to make the following changes:"

"The Committee has heard reports that ATF has pursued license revocations and denials against firearms dealers based on violations that cansist largely of record keeping errors of various types that are unlikely to impede tracing investigations or prosecution of individuals who use firearms in crime. The Committee encourages ATF to consider lesser gradation of sanctions for recordkeeping errors. {So do it, damn it!}"

Breaking News: ATF Loses over 500 businesses records
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Todays World Net Daily story reports that:

An ATF inspector, Herbert Blount, told Savage that when the agency moved to a new building, officials "lost/misplaced" records for more than 500 businesses and replacements were being sought.

Somehow my .4% error rate doesn't seem so bad, however the which was questioned about it's own record keeping before now seems WILLFUL. I wonder if they finally find those lost records if they will be in PERFECT ALPHABETICAL order as they cited us for.

BATF rebuked for attacks on gun dealers
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"The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has been given a rebuke by Congress for its aggressive attacks on firearms dealers who may have paperwork errors in their record-keeping."

"The citation in the 2008 Appropriations Bill was pointed out by Ryan Horsley, who manages the historic Red's Trading Post in Twin Falls, Idaho, and blogs about 2nd Amendment issues."

"As WND has reported, his company is in a court fight now with the federal agency over paperwork errors that largely involved insignificant issues, such as a missing poster or a purchaser failing to provide a county of residence to accompany and street and city address." ...

MO: Dash Cam Video Catches Police Forcing an Innocent Pregnant Woman to Lie in the Street, guns drawn
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"Elementary school principal Yvette Hayes will never forget the night of July 13, 2007. She was pregnant at the time and believes police jeopardized the life of her unborn child."

"When Hayes was pulled over in the Kansas City suburb of Independence, Mo., on Interstate 70, she thought it was a routine stop. 'I'm thinking they'd ask for my driver's license,' she said."

"Instead, police drew guns on the five months' pregnant mother � whose two children were in the back seat of the car � and told her to lie on the ground."

"'Get your hands up,' one officer shouted while another ordered her to 'go down on to your belly. Arms out to your side! Palms up, palms up!'"

"Shocked and sobbing, all Hayes could say was, 'I'm pregnant.'" ...

NJ: Jersey Shore Police Chief Investigated, Turns In Guns
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"You hear his voice when you call his department: 'This is Chief William Kennedy, and thank you for calling the Sea Isle City Police.'"

"But Cape May County's prosecutor confirms to NBC 10 that Sea Isle City Police Chief William Kennedy is the subject of an internal affairs investigation. The prosecutor wouldn't, however, talk about the focus of that investigation."

"NBC 10 has also learned a judge Wednesday issued a temporary restraining order against Kennedy following a domestic violence complaint made by his wife."

"In response, the prosecutor ordered Kennedy to turn over all of his weapons, which he did. That's standard procedure when a police officer is involved in a domestic violence allegation." ...

TX: A pig in a poke, a poke in the eye
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"There may be another state that would take nearly 10,000 acres of wild, natural land that was donated for protection of wildlife and public enjoyment and sell it off to a private bidder rather than turn it over to the National Park Service."

"That state would be the only one in the union that could be half as much fun to cover as Texas."

"Actually, Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson would be willing to indulge Big Bend National Park's interest in annexing the adjacent 9,200-acre Christmas Mountains."

"All it would take is an act of Congress."

"Not to authorize the relatively piddling purchase price for which the rugged land is likely to go."

"To authorize guns." ...