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A Line That Can't Be Moved
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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"...when it comes to setting limits on civil liberties, more debate using sound principles is required.

"As the Bush administration moves to restrict liberties, there's one path that should not be taken: the use of torture to extract information from suspected terrorists or accomplices." --The Christian Science Monitor
 

Let's Roll vs. No Offense
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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"For years, people who fly have been told to "cooperate" with hijackers and all that will happen to them will be a little inconvenience unless they fight back. Therefore, don't fight. The idea being that there isn't much that's worth your life. For years, hijackers cooperated. They only killed or injured people on hijacked planes if they resisted..." --Ray Thomas
 

Washington Senator Maria Cantwell Emails GUNED
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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"The Democant's and Liberals just don't get it, but I give Ms. Cantwell credit for replying!..."
 

Oregon Governor on a Power Trip
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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"Clatsop County Sheriff John Raichl put out the call in his county for volunteers to help defend the county and areas that he felt would be targets in Clatsop County. The Sheriff was going to hand pick about 200 people that he felt would be able to do the job...

"So why is the Governor of Oregon concerned about this one Sheriff, or any Sheriff putting together a group of volunteers to help protect the county that they have been elected to protect?" --Sheriff Michael E. Cook
 

CO: Who will pay for gun checks?
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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Gun buyers would have to pay for their own criminal background checks when they purchase weapons in Colorado under a plan suggested Tuesday to lawmakers.

Budget analyst Paul Doyle told members of the legislative Joint Budget Committee -- who are looking for ways to save money in a weak economy -- that shifting the cost from taxpayers to buyers could save nearly $1.8 million.
 

Arm yourselves, Americans!
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"The message is simple, Americans: Arm yourselves.

We as a nation have never had a more crystal-clear reason for doing it � at least not since 1776. Our founders understood that an armed, vigilant, self-governing moral people was the best guarantee of preserving freedom.

... I was a little disappointed when President Bush suggested the most patriotic thing Americans could do in these trying times was shop." --Joseph Farah
 

Guns and Reposes
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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I read, and re-read, the program sent to me in the mail: "Your program includes firearm instruction at the United Sports Shooting Range and your choice of manicure at the Stillwater Spa." It sounded a lot more interesting than "Your program includes getting up at noon and doing laundry," which is my usual Saturday...
 

Montana [Pro-]Gun Organization Files Suit Against Interior; BLM
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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The Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA) has filed suit against several federal agencies over Endangered Species Act (EPA) policy making. At issue is whether federal land managers may close federal lands to public use, including the discharge or use of firearms, in violation of an approved land use plan, without amending the land use plan through the statutorily required public participation process.

Report by SierraTimes.com
 

LEO/Religion/Anti-gun News Conference on Homeland Security
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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Leaders of national law enforcement, religious and gun safety organizations will hold a news conference [today, 11/15] at the National Press Club to call for "strengthening our nation's gun laws as vital to any plan to increase our Homeland Security."
 

"Senator" John McCain Trying to Kill the Armed Pilots Provision
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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GOA ALERTS -- Gun Owners of America warned you last month about Sen. John McCain of Arizona who was trying to kill the armed pilots amendment. He failed then, but now he's at it again.

As you know, both houses of Congress passed airline safety legislation with an armed pilots amendment. Under normal circumstances -- when both houses agree in principle on an issue -- that guarantees that the provision will remain in the final version of the bill.
 

Cops Gun Down Fast-food Robber
Submitted by: Dana Sharron

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A stickup suspect was shot dead by police in Manhattan last night, after he pulled a gun when they stopped him for questioning.
 

Civil Libertarians Warn Police Have Abused Extraordinary Authority Before
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Secret property searches, detaining individuals without charges, jailing people on secret evidence, even military tribunals � such powers may seem far-fetched, but law enforcement agencies have them, and are using them to press their campaign against terror.
 

The Way We Were
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Edgar J. Steele, Attorney At Law -- The "rights" contained within the Bill of Rights have been whittled away to near nothing. The ludicrously-named "Patriot Act signed into law last week by Bush the Second puts the finishing touches to subverting our founding fathers' intent by denying those rights to us altogether. ... we Americans only think we are still the people we once were. No fool like an old fool.

Top Ten List of The Ways We Were...
 

CO: Gun-buying on rise after attacks
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"There have been some real strange things happening since Sept. 11 and gun-buying is one of them," said Denver Public Safety Director Ari Zavaras. "People really do think they feel safer with a gun. Whether they are or not is another question."
 

Wisconsin considers CCW
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Plan for concealed weapons touted -- Sponsors say the law would make criminals think before acting!

"If Wisconsin residents were allowed to carry concealed weapons, criminals would be less likely to victimize them," two Republican state lawmakers maintained.
 

'Sonic bullet' could disable hijackers
Submitted by: Doug Charette

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US security chiefs are testing 'sonic bullets' which can harm and confuse plane hijackers without endangering the aircraft. Sonic bullet guns produce narrow but high-power beams of sound which hurt and disorientate the target.

"The problem with traditional firearms is that they can puncture the cabin wall depressurising the aircraft."
 

Hunting not to kill
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"Guns are an extension of the fist, and their ultimate purpose is the increase of power. That's why they're so much fun." --By Christopher Ketcham

 

Report of John Lott/Brian Mackie dabate at UM (pro-gun view)
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"This is a report of a so-called �debate� between Dr. John Lott, author of �More Guns Less Crime,� and Mr. Brian Mackie, Washtenaw County prosecutor. ... The format was to be a presentation by each participant, then a brief rebuttal time, then questions from the floor...." --David Felbeck
 

"Warriors" For "Peace"
Submitted by: serinde

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FORT WORTH, TX -- More than 1,500 students attend "Imagine No Violence" rally.

The youth-oriented program is an offshoot of the ... "Safe Cities Initiative" ... formed in 1999 and initially designed to "reduce gun crime". Now, the group wants to prevent "all" crime.

Joel Glenn, chairman of the "Safe City Steering Committee" said "although the Bass Hall rally won't instantly make Fort Worth safer, it is time to make everyone aware - and to take responsibility - for a 'culture of fear'."
 

 QUOTES TO REMEMBER
You must understand, therefore, that there are two ways of fighting: by law or by force. The first way is natural to men, and the second to beasts. But as the first way often proves inadequate one must have recourse to the second. � Niccolo Machiavelli in "The Prince."

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