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... "That said, why can�t civilians have access to armor-penetrating bullets? Don�t criminals, who are more apt to attack civilians than armed and trained police, sometimes wear body armor when committing crimes? Remember the North Hollywood, California, shootout in February 1997? Two heavily armed men wearing body armor shot 7 civilians and 11 policemen as they attempted to escape after robbing a Bank of America branch. Armor-piercing ammunition in the possession of either armed civilians or police would have ended their escape attempt much sooner and with less injury."
"More recently, last month David Hernandez Arroyo killed two people and wounded several police officers in Tyler, Texas, before police shot him dead. One of his victims was 50-year old Mark Wilson, a citizen licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Wilson, who came to the aid of others attacked by Arroyo, shot Arroyo several times in the chest. But Arroyo was wearing body armor so Wilson�s bullets didn�t incapacitate him. Although Wilson saved the lives of others by distracting Arroyo, he himself was killed. If he had been using armor-piercing ammunition, he would be alive today." ... |
Post-9/11 firearms debate intensifies
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"Guns have long made some Americans feel safer and others more scared."
"These opposing views have sharpened in the 3 1/2 years since the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil, as the U.S. government reports dozens of incidents in which terrorism suspects received federal clearance to buy guns."
"The National Rifle Association, holding its annual convention in Houston this weekend, believes guns are crucial in helping Americans feel secure against terrorism. The group is so adamant that law-abiding citizens be able to purchase firearms unfettered that it is unwilling to support changing the law to keep terror suspects from buying guns."
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B) As for firearms purchases by terror suspects does the phrase innocent until proven guilty mean nothing to you people? |
Commentary: While Gun Violence Continues to Destroy Our Communities, Where�s Our Resolve to End It?
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"Having just wrapped up its annual convention in Houston, the National Rifle Association has reaffirmed its wisdom in naming me, among hundreds, to its 'blacklist' � a designation reserved for gun control advocates."
"Actually, I belong in a special category because the gun control I propose would be total and absolute. Under my plan, the number of Americans with legal possession of guns would be reduced to a few thousand, if that."
"The truth is, I despise the guns and, increasingly, the people who defend their accessibility. Not even the 'just for hunting' and 'just for sport' arguments sway me. As a citizen of the most homicidal country on the planet �- and, not coincidentally, the highest per capita ownership of firearms �- how can I justify the human tragedies as a fair trade-off for the right to stalk game or shoot at targets?" ...
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New gun shoots around corners
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"An anti-terrorist device that allows soldiers in urban combat to shoot around corners could save lives, according to its Australian distributor."
Avner Klein, of Point Trading, said the device allowed a gunman to spy and shoot at targets from behind cover." ...
"Fitted with a camera, mini-laser sight and multi-directional head, a gunman can swivel the front end and spy targets through a small, side-mounted LCD screen." ... |
Eye in the sky (or on the floor)
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"Remington Arms Co. Inc. is launching a new technology division with a ruggedized surveillance camera that can be tossed into dangerous areas to give police real-time video and audio." ...
"Remington ... decided two years ago to diversify into other technology for the law enforcement and military markets, said Asher Gendelman, director of the company�s Law Enforcement Technologies Division. The Eye Ball, its first product, was developed for the Israeli military and licensed by Remington."
"It is a 1.25-pound matte black ball, slightly larger than a baseball and weighted on the bottom so it rights itself when tossed or dropped. Controlled from the wireless display unit, it can rotate a full 360 degrees and zoom in. ..." ...
"Gendelman said he hopes departments will be able to use Homeland Security Department grant money to buy Eye Ball kits." ... |
NRA convention wraps up, expected to be city's biggest all year
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Sunday was the final day of the National Rifle Association's annual convention in Houston.
So far it has attracted everyone from gun supporters to politicians and celebrities.
The event is expected to be the city's largest convention of the year.
Saturday night, over 100 protesters gathered outside the hotel that hosted the convention. But those protesters were there to speak out against Congressman Tom DeLay, who has been accused of ethics violations.
DeLay gave last night's keynote address. He said addressing the convention was the highlight of his career.
Monday the NRA board of directors is expected to elect its second female president. Sandra Froman said she plans to use the position to emphasize women's issues, especially self-defense. |
Nugent urges NRA members to recruit other gun owners
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"Rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent urged National Rifle Association members Saturday to be 'hardcore, radical extremists demanding the right to self defense' and to work daily to recruit new members."
"Speaking at the group's annual convention in Houston, Nugent said the NRA's current record-high membership of 4 million was nothing to get excited about. He said each NRA member should try to enroll 10 new members over the next year." ... |
NRA loved just about everything -- Panel on last day takes parting shot at major media
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"The National Rifle Association may have fond feelings for Houston, but that affection apparently does not extend to the mainstream news media." ...
"However, as the convention attendees prepared to return to their homes around the country, members of a closing-day panel on news coverage encouraged them to find alternatives to mainstream media � which panelists variously described as elitist, biased and ignorant."
"'We all know the media is biased,' said Cam Edwards, an NRA online talk show host who also has worked as a radio reporter in Oklahoma City. 'An anti-gun bias is prevalent in the media. But they won't admit it.'" ... |
NRA wouldn't shoot down ban on most Internet hunting
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"At the National Rifle Association convention here, evidence of the evolution of hunting is all around, from high-tech scopes to scent-free garb."
"Although the NRA's mission extends far beyond hunting, among the main draws at the convention are booths displaying the latest gadgets for hunters to gain an advantage in a sport that's steeped in tradition."
"But most hunters see one San Antonio man's technological advance � Internet hunting � as a threat to the sanctity of hunting."
"John Lockwood's Internet venture, live-shot.com, prompted the Texas Parks & Wildlife Commission this month to ban remote hunting of game animals. The Texas legislature is debating a ban as well." ... |
Under fire, DeLay seeks NRA shelter
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"Embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay was expected to find refuge this weekend among thousands of gun enthusiasts and as many as 5,000 firearms."
"As keynote speaker Saturday night at the National Rifle Association annual meeting, the Texas Republican addressed a crowd he has fervently supported since joining Congress in 1984."
"'Tom DeLay is a champion on our issue,' NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox said. 'He has been a leader in every sense of the word.'" ... |
AZ: City woman set to be top gun at NRA
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"It's understandable, in an organization that still divides its convention luncheons into 'ladies' and 'sportsmen' categories, that publicity about the National Rifle Association's incoming president highlights her gender."
"But while Monday's expected election of Tucson attorney Sandra Froman as president of the nearly 4 million-member organization might inject a more civil tone into the arguments over gun control in the United States, it doesn't signal a softening of NRA policies." ... |
RI: Providence Detective Killed With Own Gun
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"A Providence detective was killed with his own gun at police headquarters Sunday by a suspect who was not handcuffed and managed to get hold of the weapon, the police chief said."
The killing of James Allen, a 27-year veteran, comes after a series of attacks that have raised concerns about the security of those who work in the criminal justice system." ...
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NY: Police Discover Arsenal At Queens Home
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A Queens man is in police custody Saturday and accused of maintaining an arsenal of 16 guns and 1,200 rounds of ammunition, NewsChannel 4 reported.
Authorities said that they seized the weapons at the home of Cavltan Mohabir in Ozone Park.
Mohabir was arrested Friday night and charged with possession of two handguns and crack cocaine.
After searching his home on Atlantic Avenue, police found three rifles, a pistol-grip shotgun, five revolvers, five semi-automatic pistols and the ammunition, NewsChannel 4 reported.
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OH: Perrysburg police officer facing firearms charge
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"A Perrysburg police officer was charged yesterday with illegal possession of a fully automatic firearm, authorities said."
"Brett Stoner is accused of owning an AK-47 automatic rifle that was converted from a semi-automatic weapon, Perrysburg police Chief Richard Gilts said. The weapon was not properly registered."
"The Perrysburg Police Division fired Mr. Stoner yesterday. He started working for the division in October and was classified as a probationary employee."
"Authorities discovered Tuesday that Mr. Stoner was in possession of the automatic rifle, Chief Gilts said. The police department put him on administrative leave with pay pending completion of an investigation." ... |
AZ: Mesa police want to add monkey to SWAT team
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"The Mesa Police Department is looking to add some primal instinct to its SWAT team. And to do that, it's looking to a monkey."
"'Everybody laughs about it until they really start thinking about it,' said Mesa Officer Sean Truelove, who builds and operates tactical robots for the suburban Phoenix SWAT team. 'It would change the way we do business.'" ...
"Weighing only 3 to 8 pounds with tiny humanlike hands and puzzle-solving skills, Truelove said it could unlock doors, search buildings and find suicide victims on command." ...
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AZ: Reservist says I'm a victim, not a vigilante
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"He calls himself a victim, not a vigilante."
"After drawing a pistol on a group of alleged undocumented immigrants at an Arizona rest stop, Patrick Haab says the charges against him are unjustified."
"Haab, a 24-year-old Army Reserve sergeant, is accused of illegally detaining a group of alleged illegals at gunpoint at an Interstate 8 rest stop." ...
"'I just acted on my training,' he told 3TV, after posting $10,000 bond. 'I didn't go crazy. I think a lot of people in that situation would have just shot them.'"
"Haab, who served two tours in the Middle East, said carrying a fire arm is second nature. He didn't think twice when displaying his gun to a group of seven men that, he says, attacked him." ... |
AZ: Soldier overwhelmed by support since arrest
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"Patrick Haab, the Army reservist arrested on suspicion of holding seven undocumented immigrants at gunpoint at an Arizona rest stop, said he is overwhelmed and encouraged by an outpouring of legal, financial and moral support."
"On Thursday night, a Cave Creek locksmith put up $10,000 to free Haab on bail from a Maricopa County jail, where he had been held since Sunday on seven felony counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon."
"Offers of money, room and board, free legal assistance and pledges of solidarity are coming from sources who are not only upset about illegal immigration but others who say Haab acted in self-defense and are angry that authorities want to prosecute him." ... |
Russia: Licensed to kill?
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"In January 2002, Russian soldiers killed six innocent Chechen civilians. During their trial for murder, they said they were just following orders - and were acquitted by the jury. But now a retrial has been ordered which could result in members of the Russian government being tried for crimes against humanity. Nick Paton Walsh reports"
"Dusk had begun to hang heavy over the remote Chechen village of Dai, when the radio crackled into life. 'You have six 200s,' the officer told Captain Eduard Ulman from Russia's elite special forces. Ulman asked the officer to repeat himself, holding the receiver out for his colleagues to hear. 'You have six 200s,' the voice allegedly intoned."
"The phrase - military slang for 'six corpses' - spelled death for the Chechen civilians cowering in the farmyard ditch below Ulman's men. ..." ... |
Qatar: Sri Lanka trooper kills three in New Year rage
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"A Sri Lankan soldier enraged over not being given home leave for the traditional New Year shot dead his superior officer and two colleagues yesterday, officials said."
"The soldier was overpowered after he killed a major and two soldiers in the northern peninsula of Jaffna, military officials here said."
"They said the soldier was handed over to the local police together with the automatic assault rifle used against the three men."
"'It looks like some dispute over granting leave,' a military source here said. 'An investigation is underway.'" ... |
AZ: Guns in right hands deter crime
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"Depending on who you ask, the constitutional 'Right of the People to keep and bear Arms' means:"
"Plan A: The right of soldiers and National Guardsmen to carry rifles when ordered to do so."
"Plan B: The right of approved citizens to apply for permits to carry (shudder!) concealed, loaded pistols."
"Plan C: The right of every responsible person to buy and carry such weapons as he or she sees fit. Loaded or unloaded. Concealed or openly. At home, in the car or on foot."
"On the other side of this issue is 'gun control.'"
"Gun control is either a total or partial negation of the right of the people to keep and bear arms." ... |
CO: Springs weighs stance in gun rights suits
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"Colorado Springs is considering entering into two gun rights lawsuits that could pit it against Denver and an organization that lobbies for cities across the state."
"If it does � a decision the City Council is expected to make during the next month � it would be the first time in memory that Colorado�s two largest cities have battled in court over a matter of local law."
"The lawsuits argue the legality of a pair of laws passed in 2003. The laws provide for uniform issuance of concealed-handgun permits throughout the state and declare state gun laws supreme over local laws." ... |
MI: Moms, daughters take aim and fire at DNR event
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"One of 6-year-old Kristen Carroll's feet dangled above the ground as she perched on her seat Saturday and focused on shooting a .22-caliber rifle at a paper target 25 yards away."
"'Watch where your gun's pointing,' warned her mother, Michelle Carroll, as the ponytailed youngster in her bright orange sweat shirt and pink capri pants wiggled momentarily."
"Only one of Kristen's shots hit the target at the Rose Lake Shooting Range near Bath. But she pointed excitedly at her mother's bull's-eye after the two wrapped up practice at a mother-daughter shooting and hunter safety event sponsored by the state Department of Natural Resources." ... |
WI: Readers weigh in on hunting age proposal
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"Should Wisconsin lower its hunting age from 12 years old to 10 years old? "
"Web poll: No - 32, Yes - 13"
"'I have two children ages 9 and 10 who are very interested in carrying on the family hunting and sport shooting tradition. Both have been to a rifle range for learn proper handling and shooting of firearms. ...'" ...
"'Ten-year-olds shouldn't even be allowed to carry a water pistol, which is to say nothing about anything more dangerous. This isn't like back when we had to hunt for food. Teach them to love and preserve instead of to kill.'" ... |
MA: Safety in Worcester: Which Way to the Gun Show?
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"Over Easter Break this year, I had the unfortunate bad luck of having my car broken into while it sat in a monitored New Jersey garage (I'm lucky the vehicle was still there). The thieves stole my CD player, emergency money I kept in the glove compartment, and a huge chunk of dignity. I had never felt so violated. I stomped childishly around the garage, screaming profanities at robbers who couldn't hear me and probably didn't care about my feelings, and I finally found out what it's like to be a victim of crime. But this incident is small potatoes. After watching five armed men get taken away in handcuffs by police officers barricading Caro Street with their cars on the evening of Saturday, April 9, I realized that what many of us consider an untouchable haven at Holy Cross, is actually a vulnerable community." ... |
CA: Mother drops bid to restrain neighbor -- Anti-crime advocate shot her son, saying it was self-defense
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"The mother of a teenager who was shot and wounded by vocal North Oakland anti-crime advocate Patrick McCullough has dropped her bid to get a long-term restraining order against him."
"Attorneys for Stacy Hegler and her son, 16-year-old son Melvin McHenry, said they had dropped their application for a court order to keep McCullough, their neighbor in the 500 block of 9th Street, at least 50 yards away. Attorney Daniel Horowitz said he and his clients believed they lacked sufficient grounds for an extended restraining order. ..." ...
"McCullough, who has routinely chased away drug dealers who congregate near his home, made headlines when he shot and wounded Melvin McHenry, a teenager who was among a group of young men who, McCullough said, had assaulted him." ... |
IL: Violent, Racist Protestors (Follow Up)
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"My experience at the gun raffle today allowed me to see the true ignorance and hatred of college leftists. Here are a few of my random observations." ...
"Several protesters alleged that if they had a gun with them, they would shoot me." ...
"So much for the acceptance and diversity that is preached. The protesters I encountered today were among the most ignorant and hateful people I have ever met. The scary thing is that they can't understand reason, and are taught by their 'critical studies' professors to think with their emotions." ... |
Australia: Calm urged after 'gang killings'
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"THE brother of one of two men murdered in a drive-by shooting in Sydney's Rocks tourist area has called for calm amid speculation the killings were linked to a gang war."
"Police said they had yet to establish a motive for the shootings, in which at least four men with semi-automatic pistols shot and killed Naser Ghaderi, 25, of Merrylands, and Keyvan Ghajaloo, 24, of Westmead, shortly after 1am on Saturday as they drove past in a black BMW."
"Superintendent Mark Henney, who heads a taskforce investigating a string of gang-related shootings in Sydney's southwest, said his investigators were keeping an open mind about a motive." ... |
Australia: Pistols flashed at Liberal Party meeting
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"The NSW Liberal headquarters has received complaints that Lebanese recruits flashed guns at their opponents during a meeting to establish a new Sydney branch."
"The Christian right recruited the Lebanese Catholics to help win control of pre-selections in several federal and state seats ..." ...
"The Liberal Party's disputes panel has received several complaints about the meeting on January 7 convened to discuss forming a Beaumont branch in Kellyville."
"Police were called in to break up a fight between 100 right-wing recruits and a left-wing faction, the newspaper said."
"One submission said supporters of a political hopeful, David Baynie, showed their pistols to intimidate others." ... |
Australia: Student attacks on teachers rising
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"TEACHERS and classroom aides in Victoria have been punched, bashed with metal cans, kicked, spat at and threatened with knives, metal stakes and replica guns, a Herald Sun investigation has found."
"Others have been injured by chairs, rocks and computers thrown by angry students; some have received written death threats." ...
"'The State Government's only response so far is to offer teachers self-defence lessons and to ship violent kids from school to school,' [Opposition education spokesman Victor Perton] said. 'We can feel compassion for these kids -- many come from bad home environments -- but we still need to protect teachers and schoolmates from attack.'" ... |
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